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No charisma paladin in Kingmaker, Ken. I was referring to the character I play in Viktor's game here. Feel free to play your conniving half-elf battlemind or your human brawler.
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Some character background for my dwarven invoker, that's been brewing in my mind for a while now.

Uriah Arrenveldt, his tale

I was once like you: confident, secure, trusting in the beneficence of the gods. Naive. I, too, thought the world a fine and happy place, filled with wonder and laughter and all good things. I thought the gods held us fast in their sheltering embrace, stood vigilant between this happy world and that which -- I thought -- would tear it apart: the outer darkness, demons of chaos and destruction. What a weak, trusting fool I was!

I know better, now.

I served Torag, in my youth, as do many of my kind. I served the long, hot hours at the forge, learning the way of things, how they go together, how if you strike the metal so, it deforms thus. Do not smirk at me behind your beards and roll your eyes, seeing my lean arms and slender frame. It is the weight of the hammer that shapes the steel, not the arm of the smith. So long as you do not tire and hold firm to your given task, the hammer will do its work as it should. And though I may lack the bulk and strength common to my kind, I do not tire easily, nor turn lightly aside from the task given me. Something you would do well to remember. Smithing suited me. Performing minor works of creation in imitation of the gods, turning raw iron and coal into tools and weapons, that is surely a noble calling, and I enjoyed the work. I did not have the gift of skill and artistry that make a master, but that did not bother me.

I thought to join the priesthood of the Forge, and began to receive training in those things a priest must know. Among many other things, I learned of imprisoned Rovagug, and of Groetus who will come in the end times and destroy all. I was taught that right behavior was sacred to the gods, that keeping one's oaths, performing one's appointed task willingly and well, and obeying those rightfully placed over you; all these things served to shore up and support what the gods had made. And that lies and licentiousness and disobedience undermined them and their works. At the same time, I was taught counselling, for those of the faithful who were troubled and unsure. There, I was taught to be kind and forgiving, gently encouraging the troubled even when their minds and actions were entirely confused. I grew troubled, and turned to the counsellor under whom I was studying, a kindly old dwarf named Sardanes.

"Father," I asked him, "Why do we not explain these folk how destructive their actions are? This man I spoke to today, who is deceiving his wife with another woman. I was kind and gentle, as you instructed me, and his remorse seems genuine, but yet he carries on. Week after week he comes to us, sorrowful and swearing never to do it again, and every time, breaks his word within the week. Does he not see how destructive his actions are? How it becomes easier and easier to break his vows? Should we not tell him?"

"No, my son. It's not necessary," Father Sardanes explained. "He already knows how destructive his deceit is. It gnaws at him constantly; that is why he comes to us. If we censure him for it, it will merely send him away, and then he will have no one to support him in his efforts to change."

"But his lies -- each time he breaks a vow, it diminishes the trust we all have in each other! If another man were tempted to break his marriage vows, and saw this man breaking his so freely and without penalty, it would encourage that other man to break his vows too. And then another, and another, and soon the vows are meaningless! And other promises, too: would you accept a promise of future payment from this man, this cheater? Yesterday I would have, without question, but now I have doubts. I have doubts, Father, and distrust, where all was certainty. This man's lies caused that. Should we not punish him, expose him, to protect others? To stop others, from sinning as he has sinned?"

"No," Father Sardanes disagreed, shaking his head. "That would destroy him, and destroy his life. It is not our job to judge; that is for the gods. We can only support and aid, and trust to them to shelter us and guide our course."

The conversation left me troubled, for I could see no evidence of divine justice in the world. The usual explanations and justifications, that, to strengthen us, the gods leave us to make our own way in the world, left me unconvinced. I felt adrift.

I began to have dreams of destruction. Nightmares where tiny sparks started fires, which slowly grew until they consumed the whole world, or where the faintest of scratches became infected, making my own limbs into festering, ghoulish claws that turned on me. The worst were the dreams of a skull face in the moon, watching as men turned to their own destruction, watching and laughing with wild glee, looming closer and closer.

I lost sleep, trying without success to evade the dreams. I lost strength, grew pale and haggard. I left off my training, and turned myself to prayer, seeking answers. I prayed to Torag first, but received no guidance. I cast my net wider, praying to all the good gods and guardians I knew, those greatest of defenders of what was good and right. Nothing. Desperate, I prayed to anyone, anyone at all, that could make sense of it all, who could stand between the world and the grinning skull and say, this shall not be.

That night, I had the skull dream again. As before, it loomed, laughing insanely, as I watched men cavort and drink and lie and steal, all lawless and wild. Then it changed: men came, with dark armor and stern faces beneath horned helmets, accompanied by hooved and horned figures of flame and iron. The devils obeyed the commands of the grim-faced men, and together, they slew the wild folk, the thieves and cheaters and liars, and piled them into a great pyre. The leader of the grim-faced men, a dwarf in blackened chain with an iron-bound staff, strode forward and inscribed a red pentagram around the pyre. He spoke words, which, straining, I could almost hear, and then struck the ground with his staff, turning his face to the sky. When he did so, I could see that his face was mine: older, eyes lined with fatigue and pain, and all-consuming purpose. The pyre exploded in a torrent of reddish-white flame, burning to ash in just a few moments. When it faded, the grinning skull had stopped laughing, and was drawing back from the world, looping back for another pass on its long orbit. In the pall of smoke around the burned out pyre, I glimpsed the outline of a horned, cloven-hooved figure, cloaked in black and features obscured by smoke, striding among the ashes, his burning eyes fixed on mine where I watched, dreaming. In his hand he held a scroll, which he unrolled and held toward me in a red-skinned, clawed hand.

That morning, I awoke, and left the service of Torag forever.

The truth is, the gods have given up on us. They sit back, distancing themselves from a world they think doomed, content to let us spiral headlong into an oblivion of our own design, crafted by the dark urgings in men's souls. But not all beings of power have given up the fight. The black prince, who locked away the destroyer before the world began, carries on the fight. By cutting out the rot, by purging that which spoils and destroys for its own selfish sake, by binding men with stern laws and backing them with implacable resolve, we may yet preserve this wretched world a few more generations. Perhaps, if we cut deeply enough, if our fires burn hot enough, the gods will take an interest once again and lend their aid.

The gods lack the will to do what must be done to save this world. I serve one who does not: Asmodeus, the Prince of Darkness.


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So, yeah. I really hope that will work with the other character concepts in the group, 'cause I'm pretty excited by it.
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Wow, that's awesome, Greg. Very, very cool.
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Nice backstory. I also like the name. From what you've written up, I think my character will have plenty to fight debate about with Uriah.
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Johnny Bloodbath tells his story:


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Ravenblade - Dwarf Two-Weapon Ranger, Hammer of Moradin (Scales of War)
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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Korrin, level 2
Dwarf, Runepriest
Runic Artistry: Wrathful Hammer
Background: Society - Noble (+2 to Insight)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 16, Dex 12, Int 9, Wis 16, Cha 10.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 14, Dex 12, Int 9, Wis 14, Cha 10.


AC: 20 Fort: 14 Reflex: 13 Will: 14
HP: 33 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 8

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +5, Heal +9, Insight +11, Endurance +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +2, Arcana, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering +6, History, Intimidate +1, Nature +4, Perception +4, Stealth +2, Streetwise +1, Thievery +2, Athletics +4

FEATS
Level 1: Dwarven Weapon Training
Level 2: Rune of Vengeance

POWERS
Runepriest at-will 1: Word of Diminishment
Runepriest at-will 1: Word of Exchange
Runepriest encounter 1: Flames of Purity
Runepriest daily 1: Rune of the Undeniable Dawn
Runepriest utility 2: Shield of Sacrifice

ITEMS
Scale Armor of Dwarven Vigor +1, Adventurer's Kit, Craghammer, Light Shield, Throwing hammer (2), Potion of Healing (heroic tier)
====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======

Any suggestions are welcome. =)
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Nice write up Viktor. I like the part about the pig among snails. Kaede doesn't happen to be a cat by any chance?
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Jonathan Berg wrote
Korrin, level 2
Dwarf, Runepriest ...

Any suggestions are welcome. =)


Looks good, however you still need an eight chapter backstory.
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Emily wrote
Nice write up Viktor. I like the part about the pig among snails. Kaede doesn't happen to be a cat by any chance?


Thanks! I had a ton of fun writing it. I was inspired by a few novels (master li series, tales of the otori, riftwar saga), some movies, and star wars lore believe it or not. Kaede isn't a cat, but his trusty club, the current love of his life, to whom he talks frequently and was re-telling his past to, both in his mind and out loud.
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Nice backstory, Viktor. :) I figured out you were talking to your club, but mostly because I looked seriously at Crashing Tempest Style myself for my half-orc monk on Living 4th Edition (link here).

Jonathan, personally, I'd buy an 18 Str and pick one of Con or Wis to focus on. A 16 Str with a +2 prof weapon like a hammer will hurt your odds of connecting on your attacks. I see you took one Con-based at-will and one Wis-based at-will, though. But hey, your call.
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FWIW, Viktor, my Warlord started with a 16 Strength and has a +2 weapon, and he recently hit on 26 consecutive attacks.
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Obviously, he COULD crit every time he attacks, too. Or Natural 1 every time. But I'm just saying what the odds are.
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In fact, I did not crit a single time in all of that. So, there.

My point is, though, that things do not have to be optimized all the time, and my unoptimized warlord has hit over 2/3rds of the time in 8+ levels of encounters.
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I'm still deciding on some things to purchase and whether to take Rising Storm or Open the Gates of Battle as encounter power, but here's the stat block so far.

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  • Tak'gunitoth (Takeo) - "Rising Death"
    • Half-Orc Stonefist Monk, Level 2
    • Passive Perception: 15, Passive Insight: 15
    • AC: 19 Fort: 17 Reflex: 17 Will: 15 Speed: 6, Initiative: 5
    • HP: 28, Bloodied: 14, Surge Value: 7, Surges: 7/7
    • Half-Orc Resilience: 5 thp when bloodied
    • Swift Charge: +2 speed when charging
    • Powers
    • Crane's Wings
    • Five Storms
    • Stonefist Flurry of Blows (9 dam to same target / 11 dam to adj target)
    • Careful Stride
    • Furious Assault (1w or 1d8 extra damage)
    • Rising Storm OR Open the Gate of Battle
    • Second Wind
    • Snow Leopard Maneuver
    • Items
    • Badge of the Berserker +1 (avoid OA when charging)
    • Clothes/Hat/Scarf
    • Kaede (club)
    • Shuriken
    • Foot Pads (+1 stealth to move silently)
    • Camaflouged Clothing (+1 stealth to hide)
    • Thieve's Kit (+2 thievery)
    • Climber's Kit (+2 athletics for climbing)
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I have you guys starting the campaign after completing a small mission for Brevoy. However, if you can figure out ways your PC's know another member (or two) of the group from longer back than that, it'd be handy for me to have something more to work with in hooking you guys together and onward into the adventure.
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Johnny doesn't have any prior experience with the group. He was hired to do the Brevoy job.
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I'm open to Takeo having prior connections with Korrin (runepriest dwarf), "Mary Convertsall" (Emily's cleric), or Uriah Arrenveldt (the scary invoker), if anyone has any suggestions. I'm a little worried that Uriah might prosecute and kill Takeo though. ;)
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I'd definitely like to have acquaintances with at least two other characters, maybe more. Backstory to come shortly.
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Good stuff, Emily and Jonathan. I'm really looking forward to how the three divine PC's interact! :)
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Theologically, I think it will be Uriah and Korrin, the skeptics, vs Magda, the faithful. Fun stuff.
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Lol! Yes, looks very promising. I liked Magda's story a lot. It had nice down-to-earth components that give her character depth. I also thought of a way of Takeo to meet both Korrin and Magda in New Stetven while both are there spreading their beliefs. I'll email you guys some ideas soon and see what you think.
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Okay, I'd like to get started this weekend if possible. I have backstories from Emily, Viktor, Greg, and Jonathan. I need a backstory from Ken, and I need Nathan to say if he's in or out. I need Character Builder files from everyone.

I'm really excited about this adventure path, lots of interesting directions for you to go, places to explore, people to meet and/or slay, and factions to fight or ally with.
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