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Who is posting? I'll assume it's Ari, who is hanging out at Emily's or something.

Mantle of the Infidel at-will would be very good if we have two defenders. There will always be marked targets and one could often be at -4 to hit others.

Blades of astral fire is a nice encounter power in that it's enemies only and would grant +5 AC to allies for a turn.

Not so sure about angelic protector daily. As a summoning, it would only have 11 hp with your stats and it's standard attack marks, which would just get it killed all the quicker. If we DO have two defenders playing, we'll be marking plenty and also have to be careful not to mark each other's targets. Angelic protector might make that even harder.

The other at-will seems okay, except there might be better ones. Opportunity attacks are rare to begin with and depend 100% on whether the DM wants to have them occur for players.
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Hand of radiance is a nice at will. Targets 1, 2, or 3 enemies for 1d4+wis radiant damage. Let's you hit several targets without worrying about friendly fire, and is radiant, which is great. I agree another daily might me better.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/22200121/The_Whole_Duty_of_Man_-_A_guide_to_Invokers

...is a good invoker guide to look at for ideas.
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Viktor wrote
Who is posting? I'll assume it's Ari, who is hanging out at Emily's or something.

Yes precisely. Ari is officially a DORK. I edited it.
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For Invoker level 1 dailys, I think the following are quite good:

Angelic Echelon - good damage, enemies only, burst 3

Brilliant Beacon - good control with some damage, area burst zone, enemies only

Invocation of Ice and Fire - very good damage, blast 5 zone, all creatures, can sustain the zone for push/pull ping-pong with enemies
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Hand of radiance has the potential to get very good synergy with my sun god worshiping paladin. Power of the sun is a feat that lets me stack on vulnerability to radiant attacks and I'll probably nab it at level 2. There is another feat that gives a close burst 2 granting vulnerability 5 (or increase existing vul. by 5) to radiant damage until the end of the character's next turn too. If there is another radiant damage dealer, I'd grab that early as well.

Between divine challenge, mantle of the infidel, and enfeebling strike, there is some serious debuffing we could lay down.

EDIT:

Ari, were you thinking of playing in delve #6? If you go with a controller, I'll change from my invoker to a crazy over-sized bastard sword wielding bugbear rogue, or something like that.
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Here's what my gold dwarf battlemind from the East Rift looks like, Executioner axe, ale, and all.


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How can I not play him now with such a cool image!
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Very cool! I looked a little bit last night for a dwarf that was mostly normal but a little wild looking, but didn't find anything that spoke to me. Gotta look some more.
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How/where do you guys always find such sweet pics?
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Not sure were Viktor found that one, but deviantart.com has lots of good images.
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I was planning on playing in the next delve. I will definitely try some controller.

However, for the campaign I would really like to play a controller that works well with melee characters and defenders. I'll keep looking until I find one that works. I like the psion's current build, and the preservation invoker so far. I'm open to any ideas. I'm also sure to wait until ph3 to make my final decision.
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The invoker is definitely a relatively melee-ally friendly controller. It has a lot more "affects enemies" powers that the wizard, which has a lot more "affects all creatures" powers.
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nmathew wrote
How/where do you guys always find such sweet pics?


I'm not telling. :twisted:

Kidding. I used to scour deviant art and paizo, but I've found that if you use google images and include deviant art or paizo as your keywords, then you can find a lot more and go through them a lot faster.

Gary, I found a really cool looking shamanish dwarf. I'll post it in second. You may not like it though, since he's wielding dual, magical totem rods, although his eyes definitely have a spirit look about them.
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Here's the spirit possessed looking dwarf shaman.

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I saw that one, too. Definitely a very primal dwarf shaman. The primalness is maybe even a bit over the top. If I can't find something more wild-but-subdued, it could work.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. The best dwarf shaman picture I found is at this link here, but it's a femal dwarf.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/292/9/7/Dwarf_Shaman_by_BenWootten.jpg
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That's a very good one. In fact, it's on page 62 of Primal Power. :)

I wouldn't mind playing another female PC, although Emily gave me grief for Azad. :P
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« Last edit by Gary on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:13 pm. »
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Here's a cool minotaur....something. Since you were considering that race.

http://www.thewowauthority.com/images2/class_shaman3.jpg
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Saw that minotaur, too. :) Did quite a bit of minotaur image searching. Didn't really look at human images.
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Gary, here's a neat pic for male dwarf shaman. I'm not quite sure what the spirit companion is, but this one's a lot more subdued than the crazed one from before.

http://grab.by/1sQ8
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And here's a very atmospheric human shaman.

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/176/6/c/Shaman_by_theincredibleandy.jpg
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That's from page 81 of Primal Power, the Great Elder world speaker shaman paragon path. :) also solid, but I kinda don't care for the baldness (which is, alas, pretty common in dwarf male pics).
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I know this isn't the best thread for this, but it's currently the most active. I can't initiate charbuilder anymore. When I try, I get the following two windows. The top window pops up after the I click "Launce Character Builder" after the first pop-up has checked for updates. The second error window appears after I try clickin on "send error report". Has anyone come across these before and if so, what's the fix?

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I have no idea. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?
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I now have an image for my dwarf shaman. However, I'm going to explain how I came up with it, because I'm fairly impressed with myself. ;) So follow along as we proceed down the path to my new character's art.

I found some great art in the Warhammer Online concept art galleries.

http://www.warhammeronline.com/

There's both great pictures of individuals and great pictures of items (swords, axes, etc.). I ended up using two of the first and one of the second in putting my image together.

I started with this picture:

User posted image

However, I thought the helm was a bit much, so I stole the helm from this picture:

User posted image

I also found a really awesome item that I could use as a totem:

User posted image

Original at http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/0607_CAt_24.jpg but the original pic was too big to link directly into the thread.

I combined them all and:
- tweaked the color of the totem to blend a bit better,
- gave the totem a shadow on the tunic to make it look part of the rest of the picture, and
- gave the head of the totem a bit of a glow to match the glowing eyes and rune already on the totem and bring it out a bit when placed in front of the rest of the outfit.

This all combined to make this final picture:

User posted image

I'm very, very pleased with result. :D This also pretty well cements that I will indeed be playing a dwarf shaman for this game. ;)
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Most impressive, Master Hoggat.

Wow! You're right in that you pretty much have to play that character now, or at least find just as awesome a pic for any others. You've just set the bar for the rest of us. What program did you use for the color, shade, and brightness tweaking and helmet switching?

One suggestion, the eyes are black holes. You could maybe add a ligth blue "spirit" glow to them.
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