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Delve #3 Plans

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I was planning on waiting to build your characters myself until after the 9/1 update anyway, so that's fine with me. Also, backgrounds work as well. The point of the delves was to have fun with as many character builds as possible, so why not?
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One more wrinkle on my current character sheet... Mighty Challenge lets me add my Strength mod to my Divine Challenege damage, and this is not noted on the Divine Challenge power card.

C'mon, tomorrow! ;)
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
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Tomorrow should also add AV2 to the builder if you wanted to change items around.
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The group as it stands...

Defender:
Gary - human ardent paladin

Leader:
Viktor - kalashtar shielding cleric

Striker:
Josh - elven artful dodger rogue
Emily - githzerai monk

Controller:
Mike - deva wrathful invoker

Undecided:
Marek - will play, but undetermined character
Adam - has not said if he's still playing
Ari - has not said if he's still playing
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
Khavak'aashta - Half-Orc Thief 5 - Eberron
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Jonathan Berg wrote
Tomorrow should also add AV2 to the builder if you wanted to change items around.


Thanks for pointing that out! I'd forgotten about that. I may yet do that, we'll see.
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
Khavak'aashta - Half-Orc Thief 5 - Eberron
Dwimmerlaik - Revenant Hexblade 2 - Dark Campaign
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Here's Emily's monk:

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Edeya, level 3
Githzerai, Monk
Build: Centered Breath Monk
Monastic Tradition: Centered Breath
Background: Geography - Mountains (+2 to Athletics)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 18, Cha 8.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 8.


AC: 18 Fort: 15 Reflex: 17 Will: 17
HP: 34 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 8

TRAINED SKILLS
Perception +10, Insight +10, Acrobatics +12, Stealth +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +1, Bluff, Diplomacy, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +2, Heal +5, History +1, Intimidate, Nature +5, Religion +1, Streetwise, Thievery +5, Athletics +7

FEATS
Level 1: Dakshai's Body-Mind Union
Level 2: Weapon Focus (Unarmed)

POWERS
Monk at-will 1: Dragon's Tail
Monk at-will 1: Crane's Wings
Monk encounter 1: Open the Gate of Battle
Monk daily 1: Whirling Mantis Step
Monk utility 2: Harmonious Discipline
Monk encounter 3: Twin Thunders

ITEMS
Monk Unarmed Strike, Adventurer's Kit, Shuriken (20), Vicious Monk Unarmed Strike +1, Sylvan Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +1, Amulet of Resolution +1, Climber's Kit, Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (3)
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
Khavak'aashta - Half-Orc Thief 5 - Eberron
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Here is my stat block. Using Olive for text.
  •  Edeya
    • Female Githzerai Monk 3
    • Passive Perception: 20, Passive Insight: 20
    • AC:18, Fort:15, Reflex:17, Will:17 - Speed:6
    • HP:34/34, Bloodied:17, Surge Value:8, Surges left:8/8
    • Action Points: 1, Second Wind: not used
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    • Powers
      • Centered Flurry of Blows
      • Crane's Wings
      • Dragon's Tail
      • Iron Mind (when hit, gain +2def until end of next turn)
      • Open the Gate of Battle
      • Twin Thunders
      • Whirling Mantis Step
      • Harmonious Discipline (gain 4 temp HP. When no temp HP remaining, gain a bonus +4 to dam on next melee attack).
      • Vicious Monk Unarmed Strike +1
      • Sylvan Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +1
      • Amulet of Resolution +1

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Edeya - Githzerai Seeker - Points of Light
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Here's Marinya's stat block. She will speak in crimson.

  •  Marinya Durstan
    • Female Human Paladin 3
    • Passive Perception: 14, Passive Insight: 14
    • AC: 20, Fort: 18, Reflex: 14, Will: 17 - Speed:5
    • HP: 39/39, Bloodied: 19, Surge Value: 9, Surges left: 11/11
    • Action Points: 1, Second Wind: not used
    • Resist 5 Necrotic
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    • Powers
    • Ardent Strike
    • Divine Challenge
    • Holy Strike
    • Valiant Strike
    • Battle Awareness
    • Call of Challenge
    • Channel Divinity: Divine Mettle OR Divine Strength
    • Divine Pursuit
    • Strength from Valor
    • Ardent Vow x3 - 1 / 2 / 3
    • Paladin's Judgement
    • Lifegiving Plate Armor +1 (Daily)
    • Potion of Healing x3
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
Khavak'aashta - Half-Orc Thief 5 - Eberron
Dwimmerlaik - Revenant Hexblade 2 - Dark Campaign
« Last edit by Gary on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:05 am. »
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EDIT: Changed based on the new items selected from AV2. By the way, the healer's implement feat bonus is still not fixed.

  •  Mika
    • Female Kalashtar Cleric of pelor, Level 3
    • Passive Perception: 14, Passive Insight: 20
    • AC: 17, Fort: 13, Reflex: 13, Will: 18, Speed: 5, Initiative: -2
    • HP: 40, Bloodied: 20, Surge Value: 10, Surges: 8
    • saves vs. dazed/dominated at start of turn, telepathy 5 (two-way)
    • All healing powers (H) grant an additional 6 hit points
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    • Powers
    • Astral Seal (H)
    • Sacred Flame
    • Bane
    • Bastion of Mental Clarity
    • Healerís Mercy (H) or Divine Fortune
    • Healing Word 1 / 2 (H)
    • Hymn of Resurgence
    • Life Transference (H)
    • Beacon of Hope (H)
    • Healerís Brooch +1
    • Symbol of the Holy Nimbus +1
    • Healing Potion 1 / 2 / 3


    • (Key: At-Will, Encounter, Daily, Magical Equipment, Consumable, Used)
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Ravenblade - Dwarf Two-Weapon Ranger, Hammer of Moradin (Scales of War)
« Last edit by Viktor on Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:59 pm. »
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For everyone who has already made their character, if you want to look through today's updates on the builder (especially for new items from AV2), go for it.
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Sir Muurak - Mul Cavalier 14, Scales of War
Demuriath - Revenant Assassin 5, Points of Light
Kurvilis - Gnome Mage 4, Eberron
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I do have an update to my character...I am taking Auspicious Birth from Scales of War as my background (gives me 9 HP!). Here is my updated char sheet.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Elinar, level 3
Elf, Rogue
Rogue Tactics: Artful Dodger

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 11, Dex 20, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 14.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 11, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 14.


AC: 19 Fort: 12 Reflex: 19 Will: 14
HP: 42 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 10

TRAINED SKILLS
Stealth +11, Thievery +11, Athletics +6, Bluff +8, Acrobatics +11, Perception +8

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +1, Diplomacy +3, Dungeoneering +1, Endurance +1, Heal +1, History +1, Insight +1, Intimidate +3, Nature +3, Religion +1, Streetwise +3

FEATS
Level 1: Into the Fray
Level 2: Martial Alacrity

POWERS
Rogue at-will 1: Deft Strike
Rogue at-will 1: Piercing Strike
Rogue encounter 1: Fox's Gambit
Rogue daily 1: Handspring Assault
Rogue utility 2: Tumble
Rogue encounter 3: Bait and Switch

ITEMS
Sling, Sling Bullets (20), Climber's Kit, Thieves' Tools, Darkleaf Leather Armor +1, Amulet of Physical Resolve +1, Flesh Seeker Dagger +1, Adventurer's Kit
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
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No offense, but I kinda think the SoW (and, to a lesser extent, FR) backgrounds are overpowered. Compare them to the PHB2 or Eberron backgrounds that are all +2 to a skill or make a skill a class skill. 9 HP is WAY more powerful than +2 to a skill.
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Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
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Rather than me making a decision on this, since the delves are a group project, why don't we vote on backgrounds and such? As long as we are consistent, I don't see a problem either way.
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I agree that extra hp are a powerful addition, although it does allow non-fighter types a fighting chance (especially the ones that need to get close to battle). On the other hand, do we really want to have +2 skill bonuses or an extra skill for delves? We're not exactly roleplaying a lot and skill challenging much, sot it's kind of useless. So maybe no backgrounds at all would also be an option?

I vote for any and all backgrounds, for our delves only. However, I'm happy to go with whatever the majority decides.
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Ravenblade - Dwarf Two-Weapon Ranger, Hammer of Moradin (Scales of War)
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Whatever is fine, but I used essentially the equivalent to what Viktor talked about taking (Impiltur replaces Wisdom for Con in initial HP calculations). There is another FR that gives Int instead of Con (Thay background). It just so happens I am in an extreme case because I jacked my Dex up so high.
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Ishara will take Sun Hammer (1d10 in a enemies-only area burst 1). I think that's all I need to know for Level 3. If anyone has suggestions on how to spend the 1100+ gold I have in reserve, I'm open to suggestions.
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Hedoni Midartis - Eladrin Wizard, Scales of War
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Emily is switching her monk's Weapon Focus (unarmed strike) feat to Focused Expertise (monk unarmed strike). Either FE(mus) wasn't in the builder before, or I missed it because I was looking for "unarmed strike." Yeah, must be the first one...

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Edeya, level 3
Githzerai, Monk
Build: Centered Breath Monk
Monastic Tradition: Centered Breath
Background: Geography - Mountains (+2 to Athletics)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 18, Cha 8.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 8.


AC: 18 Fort: 15 Reflex: 17 Will: 17
HP: 34 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 8

TRAINED SKILLS
Perception +10, Insight +10, Acrobatics +12, Stealth +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +1, Bluff, Diplomacy, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +2, Heal +5, History +1, Intimidate, Nature +5, Religion +1, Streetwise, Thievery +5, Athletics +7

FEATS
Level 1: Dakshai's Body-Mind Union
Level 2: Focused Expertise (Monk Unarmed Strike)

POWERS
Monk at-will 1: Dragon's Tail
Monk at-will 1: Crane's Wings
Monk encounter 1: Open the Gate of Battle
Monk daily 1: Whirling Mantis Step
Monk utility 2: Harmonious Discipline
Monk encounter 3: Twin Thunders

ITEMS
Monk Unarmed Strike, Adventurer's Kit, Shuriken (20), Vicious Monk Unarmed Strike +1, Sylvan Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +1, Amulet of Resolution +1, Climber's Kit, Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (3)
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
Khavak'aashta - Half-Orc Thief 5 - Eberron
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I had another look at the monk build demo in charbuild. Somehow I thought the special moves in each power would require using up that action (i.e. standard typically, just to move in a cool way). I see now that if you use the movement option it just takes up the move action and you could even use the same power in the same turn for the standard action attack. Very neat. Monks are super-versatile, balanced, mobile, fighting machines! 20/20 insight and perception! Have fun Emily.
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Yup. But you can't mix and match. If you do the Dragon's Tail attack in a round, you can't do the Crane's Wings move action (unless you spend an action point). So there's flexibility, but still some consistency required. Should be fun to see in action.
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
Azad Halim al'Zahir - Tiefling Battlemind|Paladin 7 - Points of Light
Khavak'aashta - Half-Orc Thief 5 - Eberron
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Still missing Marek's character and Mike's full update (items and the like). If you have PDFs of your finished characters and want to send them to me, that would be great. Assuming we finish Delve 2 this week, I would like to start this one early the following week. I am slammed next weekend.
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Jonathan Berg wrote
Still missing Marek's character and Mike's full update (items and the like). If you have PDFs of your finished characters and want to send them to me, that would be great. Assuming we finish Delve 2 this week, I would like to start this one early the following week. I am slammed next weekend.


In that case everybody should make their turn count fully by using their dailys and action points if they haven't already done so.
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Jonathan Berg wrote
Still missing Marek's character and Mike's full update (items and the like). If you have PDFs of your finished characters and want to send them to me, that would be great. Assuming we finish Delve 2 this week, I would like to start this one early the following week. I am slammed next weekend.
Work's been shitting one me the past few days but should be lightening up soon. I have a character that's almost ready to go. Do we have a concensus on what backgrounds are going to be allowed or off limits?
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I think Josh and I are for any and all backgrounds, Gary is for limited backgrounds, and nobody else has really said either way yet. If we can't find a consensus, Jonathan can just decide what it should be for his delve.
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I'd prefer to keep backgrounds to PHB2, Eberron, and similar +2 skill or consider a skill a class skill from Dragon. But it's not a huge deal. These are just Delves. I'd feel more strongly about which were allowed in an ongoing campaign.
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Salazar Miller - Human Sorcerer 24 - Scales of War
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« Last edit by Viktor on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:17 pm. »
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I also do not feel strongly about it either way, since these are just delves. It also occurred to me that maybe not everyone has dndinsider subscription, in which case they may not have access to all background options. So, I propose we scrap backgrounds altogether for delves if that's the case.
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